The Industrial Archaeology and History of the Rhymney Valley
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The Draethen Lead Mines
The lead mines at Draethen are probably the oldest mines and industrial sites in Monmouthshire, dating back to pre-Roman times. It's known that in 1665 William Morgan of Tredegar House leased Machen Silver-Lead mines to Robert Standfield of Pentyrch and William Sawer of Llantrisant (though there were lead mines on the Northern side of Machen). The various mines have been worked on and off until the mid-19th century when, finally, worthwhile mining became impossible. The whole of the hillside between Draethen and Machen is a complete jumble of old pits, levels and shafts and well worth exploring.
The North-Eastern mines
Draethen Mine - ST 2152 8764
The North-Eastern string of very old pits run up the hillside from Rhyd-y-Gwern on the lane between Draethen and Machen. These are probably the oldest of the Draethen mines, dating back to Roman times (I'm told they've found Roman credit card receipts down there). Most fenced off as they are quite dangerous to the unwary but at least one is used by a caving club so carefully cross the stile to peer in to the depths, complete with access ladder.
Helen Mountain writes :- "I have been researching ancestors who were lead/silver miners. I came across William Armstrong 1711-1781 who had a lease at Machen in 1770. It reads 'Hugh Jones of Gelliwastod Esq on behalf of Thomas Morgan of Tredegar Esq to William Armstrong of Ridgwern, Co Glamorgan, miner. Memorandum of agreement to lease for 6 years the right to work a vein of lead running up form the River Rumney under Ridgwern Lane to a field called Cae Fae, above the said lane, being part of Ridgwern Farm in the Ht. of Ridgwern.' I have managed to locate it on the Tithe map and also the cottage where he lived. He had previously mined lead in Rhandirmwyn in Cardiganshire from 1744-1752 then moved to Machen and mined there the rest of his life. He had several sons who became Lead mine Masters working in esgair-mwyn Cardiganshire and Rhydymwyn Flintshire, but one son stayed in Machen and continued mining there into the 19th century."
Draethen Mine
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Draethen Mine
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Draethen Mine
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Draethen Mine
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Draethen Mine
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Draethen Mine
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Draethen Mine
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Draethen Mine
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Draethen Little Mine - ST 2156 8766
Draethen Little Mine
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Draethen Little Mine
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Draethen Little Mine
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Draethen Little Mine
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Canyon behind Little Mine
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Canyon behind the Draethen Mine
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Canyon behind the Draethen Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine - ST 2173 8770
Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Draethen Roman Mine
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Level below Roman Mine
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Level below Roman Mine
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Level below Roman Mine
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Level below Roman Mine
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Quarry at foot of NE Mines
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The Clive Mines
Clive Mine, Clive United Mine and West Clive Mine
Clive Mine, Clive United Mine and West Clive Mine were the three named mines, starting work quite successfully in 1850 and, not surprisingly, owned by the Hon. Mr Clive. A tramroad ran from the mines to the dressing floor in Cwm Leyshon where a horse-whim and water wheel were installed. Flooding and ventilation were serious problems and the venture failed in 1854 having only produced about 36 tons of ore that year. Other companies were also reported to be working in the general area, 'The South Wales Mining Co', 'Withers and Co', 'John Edmunds' and 'The Caerphilly and Carfunin Co'.
In 1871 they were re-opened by the Glamorganshire Mining Co. but closed almost at once. Over time, which name belonged to which location has become very obscure. This has not been helped by the quarrying activites which has removed a number of the mine sites and the 1875 OS map simply marks them all as 'old'. The Clive Mine in Coed Llwyn Hir is the only one definitely identified. It can be assumed that the West Clive mine was near Penhow Farm. However the NMRS article believes the Draethen Mine in the North-East group to be the Clive Mine with the Coed Llwyn Hir workings being the Clive United Mine.
According to the Grassington Mines “Merchants Ledger 1849 – 1862” of the Grassington Mines near Skipton, North Yorkshire, on September 24th 1854 the Clive United Mines sold a waterwheel, roller crusher etc to the Grassington Lead Mines. If anyone has more info, please drop me a line.
Cwm Leyshon mines - ST 2112 8712
Lots of remains in the undergrowth around here. Just after the quarry entrance and the lower limkilns, the tramway from the Clive mines to the washery comes in from the left on a low embankment as it reaches the upper limekilns and an adit beside the path. On the right are the walls and foundations of a couple of buildings. Another small adit is off on the left further up the hill and an open adit is at the bottom of a pit where the paths split. Further up the left hand path the site of a rectangular airshaft is fenced off and another collapsed airshaft can be seen behind the quarry fence. There are lots of other earthworks dotted all over this area that need more exploration.
Cwm Leyshon lower level
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Cwm Leyshon upper level
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Cwm Leyshon upper level
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Cwm Leyshon upper level
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Cwm Leyshon upper level
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Cwm Leyshon upper level
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Cwm Leyshon upper level
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Cwm Leyshon upper level
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Cwm Leyshon upper level
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Cwm Leyshon middle level
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Cwm Leyshon middle level
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Cwm Leyshon lower level
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Cwm Leyshon lower level
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Cwm Leyshon lower level
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Cwm Leyshon lower level
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Cwm Leyshon upper limekilns
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Cwm Leyshon lower limekilns
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Cwm Leyshon leadmines building
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Cwm Leyshon leadmines building
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Cwm Leyshon leadmines building
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Clive Mine - ST 2080 8701
The mines in Coed Llwyn Hir were part of the Clive Mines complex, Clive Mine itself is now right on the edge of Cwm Leyshon Quarry so don't step back for a photo! However, they are well worth a careful look. At the Northern end of a narrow, deep canyon are a shaft or steep level to the left and another blocked level in the end face. The canyon was the start of the tramway down to the washery at Cwm Leyshon Cottage, the route has now been quarried away. From the Clive Mine, the possible route of a tramway leads to mines below Penhow Farm, due to its location this is possibly Clive West Mine.
A large number of very old lead mines and collapses are dotted around Coed Llwyn Hir, some again dating back to Roman times, but re-worked in the 19th Century.
The Clive Mines and Cwm Leyshon
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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The Clive lead mine
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Clive West Mine - ST 2069 8710
Clive West Mine tips
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Clive West Mine tramway
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Clive West Mine tramway
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Clive West Mine tramway
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Clive West Mine tramway
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Clive West Mine tramway
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Clive West Mine and tramway
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Clive West Mine and tips
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Clive West Mine
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Tip below the Clive lead mine
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